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phaedrus-第15章

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  Phaedr。 That again is most true。



  Soc。 Is there not another kind of word or speech far better than



this; and having far greater power…a son of the same family; but



lawfully begotten?



  Phaedr。 Whom do you mean; and what is his origin?



  Soc。 I mean an intelligent word graven in the soul of the learner;



which can defend itself; and knows when to speak and when to be



silent。



  Phaedr。 You mean the living word of knowledge which has a soul;



and of which written word is properly no more than an image?



  Soc。 Yes; of course that is what I mean。 And now may I be allowed to



ask you a question: Would a husbandman; who is a man of sense; take



the seeds; which he values and which he wishes to bear fruit; and in



sober seriousness plant them during the heat of summer; in some garden



of Adonis; that he may rejoice when he sees them in eight days



appearing in beauty? at least he would do so; if at all; only for



the sake of amusement and pastime。 But when he is in earnest he sows



in fitting soil; and practises husbandry; and is satisfied if in eight



months the seeds which he has sown arrive at perfection?



  Phaedr。 Yes; Socrates; that will be his way when he is in earnest;



he will do the other; as you say; only in play。



  Soc。 And can we suppose that he who knows the just and good and



honourable has less understanding; than the husbandman; about his



own seeds?



  Phaedr。 Certainly not。



  Soc。 Then he will not seriously incline to 〃write〃 his thoughts



〃in water〃 with pen and ink; sowing words which can neither speak



for themselves nor teach the truth adequately to others?



  Phaedr。 No; that is not likely。



  Soc。 No; that is not likely…in the garden of letters he will sow and



plant; but only for the sake of recreation and amusement; he will



write them down as memorials to be treasured against the forgetfulness



of old age; by himself; or by any other old man who is treading the



same path。 He will rejoice in beholding their tender growth; and while



others are refreshing their souls with banqueting and the like; this



will be the pastime in which his days are spent。



  Phaedr。 A pastime; Socrates; as noble as the other is ignoble; the



pastime of a man who can be amused by serious talk; and can



discourse merrily about justice and the like。



  Soc。 True; Phaedrus。 But nobler far is the serious pursuit of the



dialectician; who; finding a congenial soul; by the help of science



sows and plants therein words which are able to help themselves and



him who planted them; and are not unfruitful; but have in them a



seed which others brought up in different soils render immortal;



making the possessors of it happy to the utmost extent of human



happiness。



  Phaedr。 Far nobler; certainly。



  Soc。 And now; Phaedrus; having agreed upon the premises we decide



about the conclusion。



  Phaedr。 About what conclusion?



  Soc。 About Lysias; whom we censured; and his art of writing; and his



discourses; and the rhetorical skill or want of skill which was



shown in them…these are the questions which we sought to determine;



and they brought us to this point。 And I think that we are now



pretty well informed about the nature of art and its opposite。



  Phaedr。 Yes; I think with you; but I wish that you would repeat what



was said。



  Soc。 Until a man knows the truth of the several particulars of which



he is writing or speaking; and is able to define them as they are; and



having defined them again to divide them until they can be no longer



divided; and until in like manner he is able to discern the nature



of the soul; and discover the different modes of discourse which are



adapted to different natures; and to arrange and dispose them in



such a way that the simple form of speech may be addressed to the



simpler nature; and the complex and composite to the more complex



nature…until he has accomplished all this; he will be unable to handle



arguments according to rules of art; as far as their nature allows



them to be subjected to art; either for the purpose of teaching or



persuading;…such is the view which is implied in the whole preceding



argument。



  Phaedr。 Yes; that was our view; certainly。



  Soc。 Secondly; as to the censure which was passed on the speaking or



writing of discourses; and how they might be rightly or wrongly



censured…did not our previous argument show?…



  Phaedr。 Show what?



  Soc。 That whether Lysias or any other writer that ever was or will



be; whether private man or statesman; proposes laws and so becomes the



author of a political treatise; fancying that there is any great



certainty and clearness in his performance; the fact of his so writing



is only a disgrace to him; whatever men may say。 For not to know the



nature of justice and injustice; and good and evil; and not to be able



to distinguish the dream from the reality; cannot in truth be



otherwise than disgraceful to him; even though he have the applause of



the whole world。



  Phaedr。 Certainly。



  Soc。 But he who thinks that in the written word there is necessarily



much which is not serious; and that neither poetry nor prose; spoken



or written; is of any great value; if; like the compositions of the



rhapsodes; they are only recited in order to be believed; and not with



any view to criticism or instruction; and who thinks that even the



best of writings are but a reminiscence of what we know; and that only



in principles of justice and goodness and nobility taught and



communicated orally for the sake of instruction and graven in the



soul; which is the true way of writing; is there clearness and



perfection and seriousness; and that such principles are a man's own



and his legitimate offspring;…being; in the first place; the word



which he finds in his own bosom; secondly; the brethren and



descendants and relations of his others;…and who cares for them and no



others…this is the right sort of man; and you and I; Phaedrus; would



pray that we may become like him。



  Phaedr。 That is most assuredly my desire and prayer。



  Soc。 And now the play is played out; and of rhetoric enough。 Go



and tell Lysias that to the fountain and school of the Nymphs we



went down; and were bidden by them to convey a message to him and to



other composers of speeches…to Homer and other writers of poems;



whether set to music or not; and to Solon and others who have composed



writings in the form of political discourses which they would term



laws…to all of them we are to say that if their compositions are based



on knowledge of the truth; and they can defend or prove them; when



they are put to the test; by spoken arguments; which leave their



writings poor in comparison of them; then they are to be called; not



only poets; orators; legislators; but are worthy of a higher name;



befitting the serious pursuit of their life。



  Phaedr。 What name would you assign to them?



  Soc。 Wise; I may not call them; for that is a great name which



belongs to God alone;…lovers of wisdom or philosophers is their modest



and befitting title。



  Phaedr。 Very suitable。



  Soc。 And he who cannot rise above his own compilations and



compositions; which he has been long patching; and piecing; adding



some and taking away some; may be justly called poet or speech…maker



or law…maker。



  Phaedr。 Certainly。



  Soc。 Now go and tell this to your companion。



  Phaedr。 But there is also a friend of yours who ought not to be



forgotten。



  Soc。 Who is he?



  Phaedr。 Isocrates the fair:…What message will you send to him; and



how shall we describe him?



  Soc。 Isocrates is still young; Phaedrus; but I am willing to



hazard a prophecy concerning him。



  Phaedr。 What would you prophesy?



  Soc。 I think that he has a genius which soars above the orations



of Lysias; and that his character is cast in a finer mould。 My



impression of him is that he will marvelously improve as he grows



older; and that all former rhetoricians will be as children in



comparison of him。 And I believe that he will not be satisfied with



rhetoric; but that there is in him a divine inspiration which will



lead him to things higher still。 For he has an element of philosophy



in his nature。 This is the message of the gods dwelling in this place;



and which I will myself deliver to Isocrates; who is my delight; and



do you give the other to Lysias; who is yours。



  Phaedr。 I will; and now as the heat is abated let us depart。



  Soc。 Should we not offer up a prayer first of all
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