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remains at his post； and fights with the enemy？
LACHES： Certainly I should。
SOCRATES： And so should I； but what would you say of another man； who
fights flying； instead of remaining？
LACHES： How flying？
SOCRATES： Why； as the Scythians are said to fight； flying as well as
pursuing； and as Homer says in praise of the horses of Aeneas； that they
knew 'how to pursue； and fly quickly hither and thither'； and he passes an
encomium on Aeneas himself； as having a knowledge of fear or flight； and
calls him 'an author of fear or flight。'
LACHES： Yes； Socrates； and there Homer is right： for he was speaking of
chariots； as you were speaking of the Scythian cavalry； who have that way
of fighting； but the heavy…armed Greek fights； as I say； remaining in his
rank。
SOCRATES： And yet； Laches； you must except the Lacedaemonians at Plataea；
who； when they came upon the light shields of the Persians； are said not to
have been willing to stand and fight； and to have fled； but when the ranks
of the Persians were broken； they turned upon them like cavalry； and won
the battle of Plataea。
LACHES： That is true。
SOCRATES： That was my meaning when I said that I was to blame in having
put my question badly； and that this was the reason of your answering
badly。 For I meant to ask you not only about the courage of heavy…armed
soldiers； but about the courage of cavalry and every other style of
soldier； and not only who are courageous in war； but who are courageous in
perils by sea； and who in disease； or in poverty； or again in politics； are
courageous； and not only who are courageous against pain or fear； but
mighty to contend against desires and pleasures； either fixed in their rank
or turning upon their enemy。 There is this sort of courageis there not；
Laches？
LACHES： Certainly； Socrates。
SOCRATES： And all these are courageous； but some have courage in
pleasures； and some in pains： some in desires； and some in fears； and some
are cowards under the same conditions； as I should imagine。
LACHES： Very true。
SOCRATES： Now I was asking about courage and cowardice in general。 And I
will begin with courage； and once more ask； What is that common quality；
which is the same in all these cases； and which is called courage？ Do you
now understand what I mean？
LACHES： Not over well。
SOCRATES： I mean this： As I might ask what is that quality which is
called quickness； and which is found in running； in playing the lyre； in
speaking； in learning； and in many other similar actions； or rather which
we possess in nearly every action that is worth mentioning of arms； legs；
mouth； voice； mind；would you not apply the term quickness to all of them？
LACHES： Quite true。
SOCRATES： And suppose I were to be asked by some one： What is that common
quality； Socrates； which； in all these uses of the word； you call
quickness？ I should say the quality which accomplishes much in a little
timewhether in running； speaking； or in any other sort of action。
LACHES： You would be quite correct。
SOCRATES： And now； Laches； do you try and tell me in like manner； What is
that common quality which is called courage； and which includes all the
various uses of the term when applied both to pleasure and pain； and in all
the cases to which I was just now referring？
LACHES： I should say that courage is a sort of endurance of the soul； if I
am to speak of the universal nature which pervades them all。
SOCRATES： But that is what we must do if we are to answer the question。
And yet I cannot say that every kind of endurance is； in my opinion； to be
deemed courage。 Hear my reason： I am sure； Laches； that you would
consider courage to be a very noble quality。
LACHES： Most noble； certainly。
SOCRATES： And you would say that a wise endurance is also good and noble？
LACHES： Very noble。
SOCRATES： But what would you say of a foolish endurance？ Is not that； on
the other hand； to be regarded as evil and hurtful？
LACHES： True。
SOCRATES： And is anything noble which is evil and hurtful？
LACHES： I ought not to say that； Socrates。
SOCRATES： Then you would not admit that sort of endurance to be courage
for it is not noble； but courage is noble？
LACHES： You are right。
SOCRATES： Then； according to you； only the wise endurance is courage？
LACHES： True。
SOCRATES： But as to the epithet 'wise；'wise in what？ In all things
small as well as great？ For example； if a man shows the quality of
endurance in spending his money wisely； knowing that by spending he will
acquire more in the end； do you call him courageous？
LACHES： Assuredly not。
SOCRATES： Or； for example； if a man is a physician； and his son； or some
patient of his； has inflammation of the lungs； and begs that he may be
allowed to eat or drink something； and the other is firm and refuses； is
that courage？
LACHES： No； that is not courage at all； any more than the last。
SOCRATES： Again； take the case of one who endures in war； and is willing
to fight； and wisely calculates and knows that others will help him； and
that there will be fewer and inferior men against him than there are with
him； and suppose that he has also advantages of position； would you say of
such a one who endures with all this wisdom and preparation； that he； or
some man in the opposing army who is in the opposite circumstances to these
and yet endures and remains at his post； is the braver？
LACHES： I should say that the latter； Socrates； was the braver。
SOCRATES： But； surely； this is a foolish endurance in comparison with the
other？
LACHES： That is true。
SOCRATES： Then you would say that he who in an engagement of cavalry
endures； having the knowledge of horsemanship； is not so courageous as he
who endures； having no such knowledge？
LACHES： So I should say。
SOCRATES： And he who endures； having a knowledge of the use of the sling；
or the bow； or of any other art； is not so courageous as he who endures；
not having such a knowledge？
LACHES： True。
SOCRATES： And he who descends into a well； and dives； and holds out in
this or any similar action； having no knowledge of diving； or the like； is；
as you would say； more courageous than those who have this knowledge？
LACHES： Why； Socrates； what else can a man say？
SOCRATES： Nothing； if that be what he thinks。
LACHES： But that is what I do think。
SOCRATES： And yet men who thus run risks and endure are foolish； Laches；
in comparison of those who do the same things； having the skill to do them。
LACHES： That is true。
SOCRATES： But foolish boldness and endurance appeared before to be base
and hurtful to us。
LACHES： Quite true。
SOCRATES： Whereas courage was acknowledged to be a noble quality。
LACHES： True。
SOCRATES： And now on the contrary we are saying that the foolish
endurance； which was before held in dishonour； is courage。
LACHES： Very true。
SOCRATES： And are we right in saying so？
LACHES： Indeed； Socrates； I am sure that we are not right。
SOCRATES： Then according to your statement； you and I； Laches； are not
attuned to the Dorian mode； which is a harmony of words and deeds； for our
deeds are not in accordance with our words。 Any one would say that we had
courage who saw us in action； but not； I imagine； he who heard us talking
about courage just now。
LACHES： That is most true。
SOCRATES： And is this condition of ours satisfactory？
LACHES： Quite the reverse。
SOCRATES： Suppose； however； that we admit the principle of which we are
speaking to a certain extent。
LACHES： To what extent and what principle do you mean？
SOCRATES： The principle of endurance。 We too must endure and persevere in
the enquiry； and then courage will not laugh at our faint…heartedness in
searching for courage； which after all may； very likely； be endurance。
LACHES： I am ready to go on； Socrates； and yet I am unused to
investigations of this sort。 But the spirit of controversy has b