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this implies

no feeding; or any special duty; if we say either 〃tending〃 

the herds;

or 〃managing〃 the herds; or 〃having the care〃 of them; the same word

will include all; and then we may wrap up the Statesman with 

the rest;

as the argument seems to require。

  Y。 Soc。 Quite right; but how shall we take the…next step in the

division?

  Str。 As before we divided the art of 〃rearing〃 herds accordingly

as they were land or water herds; winged and wingless; mixing or not

mixing the breed; horned and hornless; so we may divide by these

same differences the 〃teading〃 of herds; comprehending in our

definition the kingship of to…day and the rule of Cronos。

  Y。 Soc。 That is clear; but I still ask; what is to follow。

  Str。 If the word had been 〃managing〃 herds; instead of feeding or

rearing them; no one would have argued that there was no care of men

in the case of the politician; although it was justly contended;

that there was no human art of feeding them which was worthy of the

name; or at least; if there were; many a man had a prior and greater

right to share in such an art than any king。

  Y。 Soc。 True。

  Str。 But no other art or science will have a prior or better right

than the royal science to care for human society and to rule over

men in general。

  Y。 Soc。 Quite true。

  Str。 In the next place; Socrates; we must surely notice 

that a great

error was committed at the end of our analysis。

  Y。 Soc。 What was it?

  Str。 Why; supposing we were ever so sure that there is such an art

as the art of rearing or feeding bipeds; there was no reason why we

should call this the royal or political art; as though there were no

more to be said。

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly not。

  Str。 Our first duty; as we were saying; was to remodel the name;

so as to have the notion of care rather than of feeding; and then to

divide; for there may be still considerable divisions。

  Y。 Soc。 How can they be made?

  Str。 First; by separating the divine shepherd from the human

guardian or manager。

  Y。 Soc。 True。

  Str。 And the art of management which is assigned to man would

again have to be subdivided。

  Y。 Soc。 On what principle?

  Str。 On the principle of voluntary and compulsory。

  Y。 Soc。 Why?

  Str。 Because; if I am not mistaken; there has been an error here;

for our simplicity led us to rank king and tyrant together; whereas

they are utterly distinct; like their modes of government。

  Y。 Soc。 True。

  Str。 Then; now; as I said; let us make the correction and divide

human care into two parts; on the principle of voluntary and

compulsory。

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly。

  Str。 And if we call the management of violent rulers tyranny; and

the voluntary management of herds of voluntary bipeds 

politics; may we

not further assert that he who has this latter art of management is

the true king and statesman?

  Y。 Soc。 I think; Stranger; that we have now completed the 

account of

the Statesman。

  Str。 Would that we had Socrates; but I have to satisfy myself as

well as you; and in my judgment the figure of the king is not yet

perfected; like statuaries who; in their too great haste; having

overdone the several parts of their work; lose time in cutting them

down; so too we; partly out of haste; partly out of haste; partly

out of a magnanimous desire to expose our former error; and also

because we imagined that a king required grand illustrations; have

taken up a marvellous lump of fable; and have been obliged 

to use more

than was necessary。 This made us discourse at large; and;

nevertheless; the story never came to an end。 And our 

discussion might

be compared to a picture of some living being which had been fairly

drawn in outline; but had not yet attained the life and clearness

which is given by the blending of colours。 Now to intelligent

persons a living being had better be delineated by language and

discourse than by any painting or work of art: to the duller sort by

works of art。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true; but what is the imperfection which 

still remains?

I wish that you would tell me。

  Str。 The higher ideas; my dear friend; can hardly be set forth

except through the medium of examples; every man seems to know all

things in a dreamy sort of way; and then again to wake up and to

know nothing。

  Y。 Soc。 What do you mean?

  Str。 I fear that I have been unfortunate in raising a 

question about

our experience of knowledge。

  Y。 Soc。 Why so?

  Str。 Why; because my 〃example〃 requires the assistance of another

example。

  Y。 Soc。 Proceed; you need not fear that I shall tire。

  Str。 I will proceed; finding; as I do; such a ready 

listener in you:

when children are beginning to know their letters…

  Y。 Soc。 What are you going to say?

  Str。 That they distinguish the several letters well enough in very

short and easy syllables; and are able to tell them correctly。

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly。

  Str。 Whereas in other syllables they do not recognize them; and

think and speak falsely of them。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 Will not the best and easiest way of bringing them to a

knowledge of what they do not as yet know be…

  Y。 Soc。 Be what?

  Str。 To refer them first of all to cases in which they judge

correctly about the letters in question; and then to compare these

with the cases in which they do not as yet know; and to show 

them that

the letters are the same; and have the same character in both

combination; until all cases in which they are right have been

Placed side by side with all cases in which they are wrong。 In this

way they have examples; and are made to learn that each letter in

every combination is always the same and not another; and is always

called by the same name。

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly。

  Str。 Are not examples formed in this manner? We take a thing and

compare it with another distinct instance of the same thing; of

which we have a right conception; and out of the comparison there

arises one true notion; which includes both of them。

  Y。 Soc。 Exactly。

  Str。 Can we wonder; then; that the soul has the same uncertainty

about the alphabet of things; and sometimes and in some cases is

firmly fixed by the truth in each particular; and then; again; in

other cases is altogether at sea; having somehow or other a 

correction

of combinations; but when the elements are transferred into the long

and difficult language (syllables) of facts; is again ignorant of

them?

  Y。 Soc。 There is nothing wonderful in that。

  Str。 Could any one; my friend; who began with false opinion ever

expect to arrive even at a small portion of truth and to attain

wisdom?

  Y。 Soc。 Hardly。

  Str。 Then you and I will not be far wrong in trying to see the

nature of example in general in a small and particular instance;

afterwards from lesser things we intend to pass to the royal class;

which is the highest form of the same nature; and endeavour to

discover by rules of art what the management of cities is; and then

the dream will become a reality to us。

  Y。 Soc。 Very true。

  Str。 Then; once more; let us resume the previous argument; and as

there were innumerable rivals of the royal race who claim to have

the care of states; let us part them all off; and leave him alone;

and; as I was saying; a model or example of this process has first

to be framed。

  Y。 Soc。 Exactly。

  Str。 What model is there which is small; and yet has any analogy

with the political occupation? Suppose; Socrates; that if we have no

other example at hand; we choose weaving; or; more precisely;

weaving of wool…this will be quite enough; without taking 

the whole of

weaving; to illustrate our meaning?

  Y。 Soc。 Certainly。

  Str。 Why should we not apply to weaving the same processes of

division and subdivision which we have already applied to other

classes; going once more as rapidly as we can through all the steps

until we come to that which is needed for our purpose?

  Y。 Soc。 How do you mean?

  Str。 I shall reply by actually performing the process。

  Y。 Soc。 Very good。

  Str。 All things which we make or acquire are either creative or

preventive; of the preventive class are antidotes; divine and human;

and also defences; and defences are either military weapons or

protections; and protections are veils; and also shields against

heat and cold; and shields against heat and cold are shelters and

coverings; and coverings are blankets and garments; and garments are

some of them in one piece; and others of them are made in several

parts; and of these latter some are stitched; others are fastened

and not stitched; and of the not stitched; some are made of 

the sinews

of plants; and some of hair; and of these; again; some are cemented

with water and earth; and others are fastened together by

themselves。 And these last defences and coverings which are fastened

together by themselves are called clothes; and the art which

superintends them we may call; from the nature of the operation; the

art of clothing; just as before the art of the Statesman was derived

from the State; and may we not say that the art of weaving; at least

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